POLISH NATIONAL RADICAL'S INTERVIEW 2004
Greetings and Salutations Comrades! Thank you for agreeing to do an interview with Folk And Faith and for your continued support.
Q- First off , can you tell Folk And Faith readers a little about Phalanx? How you
started, what your main goals are, the meaning behind your name and a few
things of this nature?
A- Phalanx was founded in 2001 as the Internet magazine to promote politically incorrect, alternative and identity culture. We are not a political periodical and we do not represent any political groups. We promote an art, which is rooted in our system of values and national heritage. We are not dogmatic, and hence we write about issues that are inspiring although they partly represent our value system.
Phalanx is also a good quality magazine. At the moment we are working on the 4th issue. As for its name, it has nothing to do with my political fascinations nor is it connected with any political context (although it seems to be quite the opposite). The name "Phalanx" just came to my mind one day and I thought it could be a good name for a periodical of ours.
Q-You have described Phalanx as being a "European National Radical" group. Can you briefly explain for our readers what the National Radical
philosophy is, and how or where you perceive it to be different from the
European trend of National Revolutionary thought?
A- You cannot claim that Phalanx is an ENR group, because for us the ENR ideology is too narrow and it is not adequate with our viewpoints. The ideology of Polish National-Radicalism was coined in the 30s and 40s of the 20th century and it was a dynamic form of Polish nationalism. It is an absorbing and incredible heritage of polish political thought. The objectives of Polish NR were to build the strong country and geopolitical bloc of Central Europe countries. Its founders are: Stanislaw Piasecki, Wojciech Wasiutyński, Joseph Maria Bochenski, Adam Doboszynski, Jan Mosdorf, Boleslaw Piasecki, Andrzej Trzebinski... and many others. You have probably never heard of them because their works are available only in Polish.
The ideological background of NR ideology was based on principles of Catholicism, social justice without socialism, and free market without capitalism. Their nationalism was against any form of racism. For instance, one of the founders of Polish nationalism, prof. Karol Stojanowski, was an anthropologist and the father of Polish Slavic antiracism. The members of NR circles were mostly Polish. Nevertheless, the ideas of purity of blood and other Nazi heresy were not practiced there, because to other members of the group belonged people of other than Polish origin.
In the time when most European movements of fascist tendency were fascinated with Hitlerism, Polish NR activists were warning against imperialism of Hitler and Stalin. After the German and Soviet invasion on Poland, which took place in 1939, most of NR ideologists were murdered in Auschwitz or Katyn [the place where Soviet communists killed over 20 thousand of Polish officers].
The NR ideologists are of great importance for us, however we are not dogmatists and we take inspiration from other thinkers outside this movement. That's why Phalanx cannot be called a "National-Radical" group. We are also a metapolitical and cultural periodical, thus identifying with the use of political terminology is oversimplified.
Q- You stand firmly against imperialism and globalism. Are you concerned
that these issues are only usually addressed by left-wing groups? Do you
think this is a trend starting to change and to break out of the left/right
mold?
A- Yes, we are against any form of globalisation whether it is: political, cultural or economical. The leftists are not anti-globalist at all, but rather alter-globalist. What they aim at is economical globalisation based on Marxist heresy, and not on capitalism. In the political and cultural context their cosmopolitism makes them 1st rate globalists. Personally, I do not believe in the "antiglobalism" of leftists.
Q- What do you currently see as being the way forward for Polish Nationalists?
A- The contemporary situation of Polish people as a nation is far from being good. Unfortunately, any nationalist groups have no chance to improve the situation. Their stupidity, ignorance, and incompetence leaves Polish nationalism on the margin of the battle for the nation. I think, our country needs now a new generation of nationalist intelligence, who represent modern and realistic views. This new generation should be free of all the vices, that nowadays destroy Polish nationalism from inside.
Q- Do you see this as being the way forward for all Europeans and Euro- Americans even, or do you view them as separate from the Polish peoples struggle and therefore having to come up with their own ways to fight The System in their respective nations and situations?
A- Every nation should follow its own identity. There is no universal solution for the problems of all the nations. We have to keep in mind, that all nationalists all over the world should be free of ignorance and chauvinism. I love my nation, but I'm not so stupid to desire destruction or ignore sufferings of other nations, even in the name of the glory of my own nation.
Q- Do you currently work with any other European groups? Any imparticular?
A- We stay in touch with many international groups, but our contacts are based on mere exchange of our opinions rather than on concrete work. In the whole world there is large number of people sharing the same ideas, who fight on their own and not side-by-side. There is no coordination in their acts. We are especially interested in a close cooperation with our neighbours from Central Europe.
Q- How would you describe Phalanx's religious views?
A- Many people consider us as strictly Catholic magazine. In reality we are tolerant - in good meaning of these words. For instance we publish a lot of information about Christian artists and also about those, who have other inspirations. The only thing we do not tolerate are: primitive, antichristian propaganda and any pseudo-intellectual perversy. Phalanx is a magazine about culture. In our magazine there is as much Catholicism as there is in our culture.
Q- How do these views assist or reflect the political struggle? Or do you see them as being one and the same?
A- Polish nationalism has basically always been Catholic. Hence any political fight had religious aspect. Catholicism offers us moral order, on the basis of which we can create a healthy and strong nation. That's why Catholicism has always had a big influence on political life in our country.
Q- What are your thoughts, if any, on the growing National Anarchist type of broader based decentralist thoughts?
A- I do not know much about NA, because their works are not available in Polish. I think I could cooperate with creative representatives of these groups. Decentralisation has always been present in Polish nationalism. One of its authors, Roman Dmowski, wrote once that, "it is essential to destroy country, which is oppressing its own citizens with the use of bureaucratic administration." But I do not see any alternative to national countries.
Q- Being Catholic's, what are your views on the current Papacy, and/or do you follow a more "traditional" line of religious view?
A- We highly respect Pope John Paul II and his teachings. However, we feel free to have other than His viewpoints on political issues, such as joining Poland to EU. I'm not sure we can call ourselves traditionalists (for instance: we do not attend traditional masses in Latin), but I think we can be considered as a conservative group. We would like the Catholic Church to be faithful to its 2000 year old heritage which was given by Jesus Christ. We are also against any outrageous, modern changes, that are being introduced by some individuals to Church.
Q- Also being of the Catholic persuasion, what are your thoughts on the Mel Gibson, THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST movie and the attention that has been focused on it? I notice that you all have a banner supporting the movie on the Phalanx website, do you believe this movie to be of some major importance?
A- I've seen The Passion of Christ twice. And in each case it was a strong experience - especially a religious one. I think it’s good that finally someone as Gibson decided to make a movie which shows quite substantially a martyrdom of Christ and a redemption of humanity which we owe to Him. I guess that before seeing the movie nobody had realized how cruel death the humanity prepared for our Saviour.
As for Gibson's work, I have been tracking movies, in which he played or directed. I must admit that I've found most of his movies quite interesting: I can see in them part of myself, my aims and ideals. Gibson is a rare example of an artist, who can be considered as an authority for many average people, because Gibson is known for being a person who acts according to his beliefs.
The great success of "The Passion of Christ" allows us to have hope that there will appear other artists, who will be brave enough speak their mind. There is also a big chance that in the nearest future pop-culture art will bring forth many works with a message.
Personally, I think that controversies around this movie helped promoting this film, and showed the true face of "antisemitism seekers".
Many words have been written in defense of Gibson and his work. I cannot add more than a short picture from cinema: every time there were no free seats, and after the show people were overwhelmed, leaving the cinema in silence. Some of them (including men) were wiping tears of their faces.
Q- Being of Polish Nationality, what if anything is your views on the National Bolshevik movement taking place against Putin in Russia by the likes of Alexandar Dugin and others? Poland and Russia have certainly had their moments in history before, are you worried or excited about this at all? Do you view it as healthy Russian nationalist spirit taking place, or neo-Bolshevik imperialism which the people of Poland, particularly, ought to be weary of?
A- In the past Dugin was declaring in his interviews for Polish newspapers directly, that NB anticipates liquidation of independent Poland and other countries in Central Europe. NB is an imperialist Russian way. Russia has always been trying to built its own strength irrespective of the suffering of other nations. It is total absurd, that members and followers of NB movement are treated by some ignorants from the so called, „West” as people who fight for freedom. NB is a pure product of Russian imperialism, it's a way to enslave nations; it's globalisation, totalitarism and slavery. Of course it differs from the New World Order, but it is not better in any way! NB is that kind of alternative for the USA as in the past was Hitler for Stalin... Don't be ignorant and naive!
The conflict between Putin and NB movement is totally unimportant. Putin has the same aims as NB, but he wants to reach them using more quiet method, without NB's boorishness. Putin loudly speaks about his aims to put his potential victims on their guard. That's why Putin wants to make them quiet. I hate any form of chauvinism!
Q- What do you make of the Eurasian movement?
A- Let Europe remain Europe! The idea of Euroasia is promoted by Russians, who have complexes. They are conscious of their Asiatic backgrounds, they are real Euro-Asians, a civilisation hybrid. They want the rest Europe to become Euroasiatic, too. It can be compared to somebody suffering from incurable illness - he wants other people to suffer with him together. „"Euroasians" don't understand Europe and its heritage. Before you say "yes to Euroasia", move to Russian estate in NYC. After week I will ask you again what you think about Euroasia...
For many centuries European countries have been fighting with enemies flowing from Asia, such as Arabs, Mongols, Turks, Bolsheviks...
This fight built our civilisation. Euroasians (as for instance NB) tend to forget about it and create multicultural hybrid. Besides NB's Eurasianism there are also other variants of this ideology, which are created and supported by pro-Russian ignorants from the West. I cannot treat them seriously.
Q- A less serious question, What kind of music do you all listen to? Is there Polish Nationalist music? What does it sound like if so, and is it known about by Polish youth?
A- Personally, I like to listen to many kinds of rock and folk music, especially when lyrics is about things, which are important to me. Fortunately, there are many valuable bands, which do not accept The System and create beautiful art. Just look at Identity Rock, Christian Metal, Neo-Folk, Viking Rock...
There are some nationalist and Catholic bands and singers in Poland, who I like and recommend. Among them are: Szwadron 97 (alternative rock), Irydion (metal), Andrzej Kołakowski (ballads / folk), Przemyslaw Gintrowski (apocaliptic neo-classic music), Illuminandi (symphonic christian metal) ...
I think that Polish scene has many talented bands that you and your friends can find interesting. Unfortunately this scene is poorly organised, and that is very sad for me.
Q- There is a current trend of music taking place that likes to call itself "Neo-Folk" although some are more folk-centered then are others. Bands like Death In June, Blood Axis, and others are all part of this genre'. Do you view any of this as being of importance to European people's?
Neofolk is one of these current art phenomena, which we pay much attention to. It is great that many artists from this circle are inspired by heritage and culture of their countries. Fortunately, they didn't fall into ghetto, which often is folk music, where people are interested in playing the same old songs and melodies. The thing which make us sad in neofolk is, that many artists connected with this movement reject Christianity and promote some kind of eclectic neopaganism or even satanism. There are of course exceptions from this rule such as "Von Thronstahl" or "The days of the trumpet call" which present on their records Christian values. I think that neofolk movement has a big chance to appear in wide consciousness of the masses, and thus can be treated as sign of rebirth of European culture. But without Christianity it will remain dark and decadent.
Q- You are highly critical of the Skinhead movement. Is there any large amount of such there in Poland, and are there any healthy non-Nazi oriented ones over there? Are there good and intelligent ones as well as the typical nazi hooligans, or do you view them as all the same and paint them all with the same brush.
A- I’m fed up with this matter. I am not interested in this subculture. Please give me next question.
Q- What if any, groups, organisations, or websites does Phalanx take note of or pay attention to? Have you seen much of the Folk And Faith site and what are your thoughts on what you have seen if so? ;0)
A- I like the idea of F&F site, which is far from being dogmatic. If your site was in Polish, I would probably often visit it. I cannot recommend any Polish political groups, because I do not identify with any of them and I have many objections to their politics. Personally, I think that there are many interesting Polish sites in the Internet. We have many links to interesting pages on our site.
Especially, I would recommend you those in English:
http://www.complete-review.com/authors/herbertz.htm
http://www.polisharmies.ds4a.com
http://www.geocities.com/hallersarmy
http://www.king.art.pl/
http://www.szukalski.com
http://www.electronicmuseum.ca/
http://www.pinakoteka.zascianek.pl/
Q: Any final comments, plugs or promos or things of worth that you feel you should mention? Once again, thanks for taking the time to answer a few questions and conduct an interview. It is much appreciated and hopefully it will generate some movement towards your direction as well as back here.
Thanks again, and keep up the fight against Big Brother's Iron Heeled system and the powers that oppress us all. Tomorrow belongs to us!
A- Thank you very much for the conversation. I am happy I could share with your readers about our initiative. I would like also to invite everyone interested in Phalanx to visit our web site: www.phalanx.pl. Best wishes to you and fans of F&F. Smash The System! Long live Freedom!
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