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Ukranian Third Positionists interview Folk And Faith

Greetings. We are group of ukranian left nationalists. My name is Mazepa, I am editor of Ukranian Third Position’s web-zine “Bricolage”. Who are you?

Greetings Comrades, Thanks for taking the time to do this interview. My name is Jeremy and I maintain the website of Folk And Faith (www.folkandfaith.com).

Shortly about your site and about your position, please?

Folk And Faith is a website dedicated to creating autonomous zones or true community building. We are National Revolutionaries; advocates for National Freedom and Social Justice. We are neither left nor right and are most certainly willing to take any ideas from either side and apply them to our current struggle. Folk And Faith is dedicated to the folk communities of our people and is working with others to create these real world communities in the present here in North America. It is hoped that Folk And Faith will continue to emerge as a vehicle for North Americans desiring these same goals but have abandoned the ideas of rightwing conservatism and lefwing marxism and have seen the failures of the so-called 'racialist movement' and are now wanting something more forward thinking. Our aims are to create real folkish communities in the here and now. Of course it goes without saying that nothing can be accomplished with the help of our Father and Creator, thus we are Orthodox Christians. We understand that the Bible is meant for the people of European blood alone, that it is neither left nor right but Christian, and that ideas which would fall into either category can be found in the Bible. What is needed in Christendom is for us to leave the Protestant and Catholic divisions and to march forward with Biblical Christianity. This would include taking care of our own peoples wellfare, our community, establishing a community where all are united in these principles and being able to be free once again.

Folk and Faith – what does it means for you?

Folk And Faith means securing the best interests of the European Folk and the Christian Faith. The Folkish aspect should be self-explanatory but most North Americans have been sidetracked through Hitlerian agendas or dogmatic Marxist illusions that Folk and Race have no baring on the world today or at least should not. We are not interested in dreams of supremacy or ruling over anyone but our own self interests. The Faith aspect should also be self-explanatory, but like the other, it too has been misapplied and hijacked by the adversary. The Christian Faith has always been a "Western mans" religion and even when brought to natives of other lands, it failed and showed again that it was meant only for those of European blood. We are not imperialists seeking to dominate others with supremacy or force everyone to be Christians. Others can do as they will in their own communities or lands, so long as they do not interfere with ours. We have no time for neo-paganism, magic spells, or other such ideas. Again, let others do as they wish in their own communities, but we are simply not interested.

What are you thinking about modern Ukraine, about radical Ukranian movements and revolutionar’s perspectivies of our country?

Here in the US we know little about such, so our best hope for getting firsthand reports and knowledge is from folks like yourselves. I hope that the Ukrainians realize their own peoples need for true Freedom for the Ukrainian folk and help to establish a new day for the Ukraine that is not led by Capitalist oligarchs or would-be dictators with their own dreams of conquest. March forward comrades with your peoples history and bring a fiery reign of hell upon those that would seek to oppress the folk of the Ukraine. Their day will end and ours will dawn!

Do you know about great Ukranian Anarchist Nestor Makhno?

I have read small amounts about him is all. My knowledge of him is minimal to say the least, but from what I have read of him, I appreciate his desires to not be ruled by Communists or Capitalists. I do not understand though what seems to be his denial of being Nationalist oriented and the reactions of his followers to the Zionist media whores who are always claiming persecution. I see followers of his denying any sort of anti-Zionist sentiment as if they feel the need to separate themselves from the imagery of National Socialism under Hitler. If Makhno trully was not anti-Jewish or anti-Zionsist in the least bit, then it is my hope that the Ukrainian National Revolutionaries educate people to the failures of this and that they create a folkish community of their own that seeks freedom and justice, but that also knows of the deceitfullness of the Zionistic Elite and their Anglo Capitalist alliances.

N – A – ideology or social tendency?

Folk And Faith is National Revolutionary. We see value in the ideas of distributism/guildism and social tendency theories, but as with National Anarchism, neither can trully hope to survive as long as the New World Order is in charge. Things must be done here and now to stop relying on them in hopes that a true National Revolutionary ideology and the survival of our peoples might prosper.

I think, that first ukranian “national-anarchists” were our cossacs. They had National Freedom, Social Justice and struggled for Orthodoxy ("Christian Jihad"). They had own state, but they were free and had Ukranian identity. What are you thinking about them?

From what I have read they can be found to have been on different sides of the fence. No one can say for certain "The Cossacs were this.." or "No, The Cossacs were this.." They certainly had their own community, their own culture, and their own religious views and stood up for them against all others not wanting to be ruled by Poland, Russia, or the Roman Catholic church. I have heard that they also did not believe in written and concrete laws, but instead adhered to their own folkish Tradition or customs. In these regards they can definately be seen, I think as, being somewhat anarchistic in the national sense. I also respect their fight against Russian Zionist Jewry, something which present day Russian National Bolsheviks have no interest in and are all too eager to allow Russian Jewry into their ranks.

However, the Cosscas being used as the military force to further expand Tsarist Russia's program of "lebensraum" instead of just fighting for their own independance I think could certainly be read as being un-anarchistic.

I think that any people that want their own national freedom and think of their cultural identity as being separate from others surely ought to be entitled to establishing such as I am told the new generation of Cossac youth are doing. This is decentralisation and very national anarchistic and ought to be embraced and saluted.

Julius Evola (at the right) and Hakim Bey (at the left) – possible to connect traditional and antitraditional versions of N-A?

National Anarchism has the possibility to connect all true revolutionary causes as it is not seeking dominance over anyone.

Regarding Evola however, I personally have no time for Evola and his occult magic nonsense. I see it as being entirely irrelevant and as well, a turn off for those with interest in politics and creating a better world to live in. I just do not see the relevance of it. I imagine there are plenty of people who hate the corruption, greed, and crass materialism of this world and are seeking others of a similiar mind to try to network with and work on real word community building. That is, until they stumble onto someone preaching about "introductions to magic" and other occult mumbo-jumbo kabbalah-like teachings. Or until they come across someone telling them about someone like Aleister Crowley and they begin to do a bit of research into who Crowley was and into his ideas on the occult.

What we need now are people who are seriously trying to create real world communities, not someone telling us that we need to practice magical incantations and read from the Kabbalah when trying to find a European Traditional way of life. Westerners are predominately of a 'christian' persuasion, and I use that term loosely, Folk And Faith realises this and is motivated to show people calling themselves Christian, but thinking that being opposed to decadence is somehow not showing a Christian manner of brotherly love. There are Christians out there all over Europe and the US that need to know that Christianity is not only an issue of faith, but a economic and social justice alternative as well. I think the best example of what I am talking about can be found in Jack London's book THE IRON HEEL. Although those associated with Folk And Faith are not Catholics in the least degree, I think most of us would say we find encouragement in the Social Justice and Economic Alternatives of Catholics like G.K. Chesterton and other Traditionalist Catholics. This is not to say we agree with Catholicism, just that we find these folks more on our level of communication then the Crowley and Evola'ites.

Hakim Bey is an interesting character in his own right, as is Noam Chomsky and other more mainstream anarchists. I think however that we need to bring forward our own alternatives and our own speakers with eloquent words that can bring the fight to the common man without having to rely so much upon those that certainly would not be supportive of us because of our stances on separatism and Euro-Centric based views.

A little about plans for the future of worldwide N-A community?

I think that National Anarchism and other decentralist views are gaining momentum, at least in European lands. The US I think is still stuck in rightwing modes of thought to even take a fair look at what we are offering the freedom loving people of the world, and as well the leftwing is so enthralled with oppressing those they deem as being "fascist" that they loose site of the enemy, The System.

I hope that National Anarchism continues to grow and we will start seeing more real world Communities being established. The Leftwing hates us and call us "fascist", mainstream anarchists say something similiar because of our National or Folkish stance, and the Rightwing lable us as Bolsheviks, regardless of our opposition to all of these ideas. In short, we must be doing something right for this many people to be taking note of us around the world!

Best wishes to you and your landsmen. Stand tall in the fight against Neo-Bolshevism and the Zionist-Capitalist oligarch!

Yours for National Freedom and Social Justice! For Folk and Faith!

Thank you, sir. Best regards, Бриколаж - Ukranian Third Positionists poshta@lab.org.ua

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